Talk:Transform
This page is outdated. I believe the back side of a transformed card now has the CMC of the front side. Can someone please confirm, cite source and update the page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.141.86.114 (talk • contribs).
- This is a wiki, so you are welcome to change it yourself. --Hunter (talk) 16:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- You are right kind anon. I referenced the article where the new transform rules are explained. - Yandere Sliver 18:56, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- i don't know if we wait for the Rules update or if we already add it to the Rulings but in the Mechanics article are also some important information about transform in the sections about: Clone and "Entering the battlefield transformed" and about "No flippy-floppy" which means that transform does only work once for each effect. --Hanmac (talk) 07:47, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Please go ahead. - Yandere Sliver 18:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- i don't know if we wait for the Rules update or if we already add it to the Rulings but in the Mechanics article are also some important information about transform in the sections about: Clone and "Entering the battlefield transformed" and about "No flippy-floppy" which means that transform does only work once for each effect. --Hanmac (talk) 07:47, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- You are right kind anon. I referenced the article where the new transform rules are explained. - Yandere Sliver 18:56, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Statistics
Could I get a confirmation as to how the number of 300 transforming cards came about? The numbers I put on yesterday were by searching for "is:TDFC" which I cross-referenced with "is:DFC and (fulloracle:transform OR o:daybound OR o:disturb)" because Daybound/Nightbound and Disturb don't specifically turn up if the reminder text is missing. Four cards will be missing from between them, two silver/acorn promo cards and two non-game pieces. If the 306 cards is from "is:dfc is:booster" then there will be excess due to the ~80 (presumably) MDFCs from ZNR/KHM/STX. Incidentally, the scryfall search is incomprehensive, but I would like to get these numbers fixed before changing that. 220.238.51.5 21:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Scryfall does not seem to work well with the backfaces of DFC/TDFC. One of the things I have been doing is taking these into account in the statistics (Werewolves, Humans, here, etc). So the 300 is the 220 or so that you found previously with your search and the 80-ish back-faces that can transform back to the front-face. If this is not correct, or we wish to take the stats a different direction, I can easily put it back to your edit/numbers. ~Neo 21:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)