Talk:Class

Class correspondence citations

First off, Talk:Class redirects here to Talk:Creature Class, which is annoying because this topic is regarding the enchantments. Would like to request the redirect is turned off.
Someone has asked for citations regarding the Fighter:Warrior, Paladin:Knight, and Shaman:Sorcerer translations from D&D to Magic. I haven't found clear citations for these in regards to AFR, but:

• Fighter:Warrior is addressed in the ZNR Party articles. This could be cited, though it's not the same set.
• Paladins being translated to Knights can only really be cited by how all creatures with Paladin in the name are Knights in the typeline, but there's no actual person to cite other than Scryfall.
• The Shaman:Sorcerer one is claimed by someone who edited it in the Shaman article and would have to leave finding the citation to them.

Are the first two satisfactory options? 220.238.224.227 01:13, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Fighter=Warrior and Paladin=Knight are quite clear form the points you mentioned. Shaman=Sorcerer is a bit weird if you just search for Sorcerer two Shaman's will pop up the rest are Wizards including Sorcerer's Wand which specifically gets better with equipped by a Wizard. - Yandere-sliver (talk) 11:50, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I must know if class abilities are subtype-linked!

The rules aren't crystal clear on whether the abilities (activated and static) of Classes can only function while it is a Class or not! It is quite explicit that the levels themselves are designations that last forever regardless of what types a permanent changes to, but not about the abilities, which are written as "this Class" in the CR text. So we MUST keep an eye out to answer:

If I use Zur, Eternal Schemer to animate my Wizard Class into a creature which is a Horror due to my Maskwood Nexus, and my Grell Philosopher gives it the ability of my opponent's Transmogrifying Licid, which I then use targeting good ole Zur, resulting in my Wizard Class changing its enchantment type from Class to Aura as Zur becomes a Transmogrified Wizard Wizard...

A) Does Wizard Class still have its activated and static abilities which are implied by the card frame as a special "keyword". 2) If it does, can I still use the activated abilities to gain levels, even though they're defined as "This Class's level becomes N..."? d) Will its static abilities still grant it the additional level abilities, even though they're phrased as "As long as this Class is level N..."?

We must be vigilant for clues! I suspect it keeps all the behavior and everything works fine, but not sure. Also I wonder if there's an easier setup for all that - there don't seem to be many effects that change enchantment types on an arbitrary card. - jerodast (talk) 11:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)