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Rumblings from the hellpit within [[Rix Maadi]] sent the Rakdos scampering back to the guildhall to await their demon lord.
Rumblings from the hellpit within [[Rix Maadi]] sent the Rakdos scampering back to the guildhall to await their demon lord.
As the demon Rakdos finishes healing within his own personal hellpit at Rix Maadi, he reclaims leadership of the Cult of Rakdos. The Rakdos usher in diversion clubs for the twisted and curious of Ravnica as they devise new ways of expressing their own brand of mayhem.
As the demon Rakdos finishes healing within his own personal hellpit at Rix Maadi, he reclaims leadership of the Cult of Rakdos. The Rakdos usher in diversion clubs for the twisted and curious of Ravnica as they devise new ways of expressing their own brand of mayhem.
== In-game references ==
This is part of a discussion regarding whether or not the Guild pages should have an in-game references section. At the time of writing (15 Jan 2024), the only guild to have this section is the Cult of Rakdos but  that section only includes three cards (<c>Rakdos, the Showstopper</c>; <c>Rakdos Guildmage</c>; <c>Havoc Jester</c>). The question is, should all guilds have a section or should no guilds have a section?
This is a full mock-up of the section based on some suggested categories from the Wiki Discord.
{{In-game
|title1=Guild accessories
|custom1=
*<c>Rakdos Charm</c>
*<c>Rakdos Cluestone</c>
*<c>Rakdos Keyrune</c>
*<c>Rakdos Locket</c>
*<c>Rakdos Riteknife</c>
*<c>Rakdos Signet</c>
*{{card|Razortip Whip||GTC}}
|title2=Guild locations
|custom2=
*{{card|Blood Crypt||RNA}}
*<c>Pillar of the Paruns</c>
*<c>Guildmages' Forum</c>
*<c>Maze's End</c>
*{{card|Mountain||GK2|#=79}} (''[[Ravnica Allegiance/Guild Kits|Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kits]]'')
*<c>Rakdos Carnarium</c>
*<c>Rakdos Guildgate</c>
*<c>Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace</c>
*{{card|Swamp||GK2|#=78}} (''Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kits'')
*<c>Transguild Promenade</c>
|associated=
*{{card|Cry of the Carnarium||RNA}}
*{{card|Cult Guildmage||RNA}}
*<c>Rakdos Augermage</c>
*<c>Rakdos Cackler</c>
*<c>Rakdos Drake</c>
*<c>Rakdos Firewheeler</c>
*<c>Rakdos Guildmage</c>
*<c>Rakdos Headliner</c>
*<c>Rakdos Ickspitter</c>
*<c>Rakdos Pit Dragon</c>
*<c>Rakdos Ragemutt</c>
*<c>Rakdos Ringleader</c>
*<c>Rakdos Roustabout</c>
*<c>Rakdos Shred-Freak</c>
*<c>Rakdos Trumpeter</c>
*<c>Rix Maadi Guildmage</c>
*<c>Rix Maadi Reveler</c>
*<c>Spawn of Rix Maadi</c>
|art=
*{{card|Amateur Auteur|Unstable|UST|#=3a}}
*<c>Awe for the Guilds</c>
*{{card|Bond of Revival||WAR}}
*{{card|Cartel Aristocrat||GTC}}
*{{card|Iron Bully||WAR}}
*<c>Renounce the Guilds</c>
*{{card|Scorchmark||RNA}}
*<c>Seal of the Guildpact</c>
*<c>Tablet of the Guilds</c>
|quoted=
*{{card|Seal of Fire|Dissension|DIS}}
|referred=
*{{card|Act of Treason|Jumpstart|JMP}}
*{{card|Azorius Knight-Arbiter||RNA}}
*{{card|Bedevil||RNA}}
*{{card|Bond of Agony||DIS}}
*{{card|Brain Pry||DIS}}
*{{card|Cavalcade of Calamity||RNA}}
*{{card|Conductor of Cacophony||J22}}
*{{card|Daggerclaw Imp|Guildpact|GPT}}
*{{card|Demand Answers||MKM}}
*{{card|Dreadbore||RTR}}
*{{card|Douser of Lights||GRN}}
*{{card|Fiery Conclusion||RAV}}
*{{card|Furious Resistance||GTC}}
*{{card|Havoc Jester||M21}}
*{{card|Instill Furor||RAV}}
*{{card|Macabre Mockery||RNA}}
*{{card|Martyred Rusalka||GPT}}
*{{card|Mayhem Devil||RVR}}
*{{card|Pain Magnification||DIS}}
*{{card|Sire of Insanity||DGM}}
*{{card|Skewer the Critics||RNA}}
*{{card|Slaughterhouse Bouncer||DIS}}
*{{card|Sphere of Safety|Return to Ravnica|RTR}}
*{{card|Spike Jester||DGM}}
*{{card|Taste for Mayhem||DIS}}
*{{card|Tavern Swindler|Return to Ravnica|RTR}}
*{{card|Wojek Halberdiers||GTC}}
*{{card|Wrecking Ball||DIS}}
|title3=Guild watermark
|custom3=
*{{card|Anthem of Rakdos||DIS}}
*{{card|Auger Spree||RTR}}
*{{card|Avatar of Discord||DIS}}
*{{card|Bedeck // Bedazzle||RNA}}
*{{card|Blade Juggler||RNA}}
*{{card|Bloodfray Giant||RTR}}
*{{card|Breaking // Entering||DGM}}
*{{card|Cackling Flames||DIS}}
*{{card|Captive Audience||RNA}}
*{{card|Carnage Gladiator||DGM}}
*{{card|Carnival // Carnage||RNA}}
*{{card|Carnival Hellsteed||RTR}}
*{{card|Chaos Imps||RTR}}
*{{card|Cryptborn Horror||RTR}}
*{{card|Crypt Champion||DIS}}
*{{card|Dead Reveler||RTR}}
*{{card|Dead Revels||RNA}}
*{{card|Demonfire||DIS}}
*{{card|Demon's Jester||DIS}}
*{{card|Deviant Glee||RTR}}
*{{card|Dragon||TGK2}} token (''Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kits'')
*{{card|Dread Slag||DIS}}
*{{card|Drill Bit||RNA}}
*{{card|Fireblade Artist||RNA}}
*{{card|Footlight Fiend||RNA}}
*{{card|Get the Point||RNA}}
*{{card|Gobhobbler Rats||DIS}}
*{{card|Goblin||TRVR|#=9}} token (''[[Ravnica Remastered]]'')
*{{card|Gore-House Chainwalker||RTR}}
*{{card|Grim Roustabout||RTR}}
*{{card|Hackrobat||RNA}}
*{{card|Havoc Festival||RTR}}
*{{card|Hellhole Flailer||RTR}}
*{{card|Hellhole Rats||DIS}}
*{{card|Hit // Run||DIS}}
*{{card|Infernal Tutor||DIS}}
*{{card|Jagged Poppet||DIS}}
*{{card|Judith, the Scourge Diva||RNA}}
*{{card|Kill-Suit Cultist||DIS}}
*{{card|Light Up the Stage||RNA}}
*{{card|Master of Cruelties||DGM}}
*{{card|Morgue Burst||DGM}}
*{{card|Nettling Curse||DIS}}
*{{card|Nihilistic Glee||DIS}}
*{{card|Rafter Demon||RNA}}
*{{card|Ragamuffyn||DIS}}
*{{card|Rain of Gore||DIS}}
*{{card|Rakdos's Return||RTR}}
*{{card|Riot Spikes||DIS}}
*{{card|Rise // Fall||DIS}}
*{{card|Showstopper||DGM}}
*{{card|Skull Rend||RTR}}
*{{card|Slaughter Games||RTR}}
*{{card|Slithering Shade||DIS}}
*{{card|Spawn of Mayhem||RNA}}
*{{card|Spikewheel Acrobat||RNA}}
*{{card|Splatter Thug||RTR}}
*{{card|Squealing Devil||DIS}}
*{{card|Theater of Horrors||RNA}}
*{{card|Thrill-Kill Assassin||RTR}}
*{{card|Toil // Trouble||DGM}}
*{{card|Twinstrike||DIS}}
}}
-- [[User:RivalRowan|RivalRowan]] ([[User talk:RivalRowan|talk]]) 23:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
:The discussion on the Discord has come to the conclusion that because every card with a guild [[watermark]] would be required for each of the guild pages (including basic lands), it's not actually providing readers any value to list the in-game references. The consensus there is that none of the guild pages should have an in-game references section. I've removed the section from the Cult of Rakdos article and added a note to the Talk page on each of the other guilds. -- [[User:RivalRowan|RivalRowan]] ([[User talk:RivalRowan|talk]]) 22:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
::Was that the conclusion? I'm not against an in-game references section, though I do think watermarks are covered in the infobox. Depictions also has pretty wide room for interpretation. But associated and flavor I think are both still applicable. [[User:RudleyDudley|RudleyDudley]] ([[User talk:RudleyDudley|talk]]) 02:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:45, 16 January 2024

To-be-cleaned-up background

They also hire themselves out as mercenaries and assassins. The Rakdos serve another purpose, one considerably less dangerous, but no less unsavory, as entertainment for the well off, either in exotic nightclubs or in the sultry backrooms of such establishments. Unbeknownst to all but the paruns and high Azorius members, they serve the secret purpose of causing chaos within Ravnica so the other guilds unite and reinforce the Guildpact. Despite their uses, they are as savage as the Gruul and provide the League of Wojek with plenty to worry about. Rakdos rebellions are quite frequent, and at the edge of the Decamillennial the last Rakdos uprisings caused heavy losses to the Wojeks.

The Rakdos' territory neighbors the Golgari controlled Old Rav, aka the Undercity. The center of their territory is the Hellhole, a cavernous space within a great mountain that was hollowed by centuries of mining work. In its center stands Rix Maadi, the palace of Rakdos himself.

Ravnica block

In the time of Dissension events, Izolda raised Rakdos to gain control over him and made him fought Project Kraj. They fought until Kraj absorbed Rakdos into his body, putting the demon into a coma. This, however, was too much also for Kraj and it died. Later, the previous Boros guildmaster Feather dumped Rakdos' body back into his lava pit, unsure if he would ever rise again.

Return to Ravnica block

Rumblings from the hellpit within Rix Maadi sent the Rakdos scampering back to the guildhall to await their demon lord. As the demon Rakdos finishes healing within his own personal hellpit at Rix Maadi, he reclaims leadership of the Cult of Rakdos. The Rakdos usher in diversion clubs for the twisted and curious of Ravnica as they devise new ways of expressing their own brand of mayhem.

In-game references

This is part of a discussion regarding whether or not the Guild pages should have an in-game references section. At the time of writing (15 Jan 2024), the only guild to have this section is the Cult of Rakdos but that section only includes three cards (Rakdos, the Showstopper; Rakdos Guildmage; Havoc Jester). The question is, should all guilds have a section or should no guilds have a section?

This is a full mock-up of the section based on some suggested categories from the Wiki Discord.

Associated cards:
Depicted in:
Quoted in:
Referred to:
Guild accessories:
Guild locations:
Guild watermark:

-- RivalRowan (talk) 23:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

The discussion on the Discord has come to the conclusion that because every card with a guild watermark would be required for each of the guild pages (including basic lands), it's not actually providing readers any value to list the in-game references. The consensus there is that none of the guild pages should have an in-game references section. I've removed the section from the Cult of Rakdos article and added a note to the Talk page on each of the other guilds. -- RivalRowan (talk) 22:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Was that the conclusion? I'm not against an in-game references section, though I do think watermarks are covered in the infobox. Depictions also has pretty wide room for interpretation. But associated and flavor I think are both still applicable. RudleyDudley (talk) 02:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)