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Finnally an official source calling them Fast Lands:
Cycle: Kaladesh “Fast Lands” The Kaladesh set includes a cycle of five lands that produce two colors of mana and enter the battlefield tapped unless you control two or fewer other lands. Source: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/kaladesh-release-notes-2016-09-16 --Hunter (talk) 16:31, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
- Awesome. Can be moved imo. - Yandere Sliver
17:19, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Unused
How is this unused? Literally just typed "Fastlands" into my address bar and got a 404 because it didn't know to redirect to Fast_land. - Charles Stover (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- It is unused because I changed every page that linked to it to get to their destinations by a different route. You can check that using the Tools > What links here link on the left sidebar from the main page. Currently, the only page linking to fastlands is this talk page. Now, as for why I changed those links and deleted this page, the issue boils down to one of how editors should handle singular vs plural
- For sake of argument, if we have the canonical page at
[[fast_land]], should we need to redirect[[fast_lands]],[[fastland]], and[[fastlands]]? That's a lot of work. So, the wiki software does some clever work to make things easier on us. If you have a link, like[[fastland]], any subsequent characters not separated from the link by a space become a part of the link, like so:[[fastland]]s= fastlands, without a need for a redirect at[[fastlands]]. That works for any suffix, e.g errataed. For unusual plurals, you can always fall back on the[[target name| text to display]]method. - As a general rule, there is no reason for a redirect to exist for both the plural and singular versions of an article title. See also Wikipedia's guidance on article titles, link help, and their manual of style. --Corveroth (talk) 20:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- Except it should exist for people who type "fastlands" into the search bar [at the top right of every page] or their address bar, as I often do. Instead of bringing to the page they clearly want to access, it displays the 404 page. There is no reason to require users to view this 404 page, when it's clear what page they want to access. No one is being asked to do the work of making redirects. I am doing it voluntarily. Deleting the redirects accomplishes nothing other than making the content harder to find and requiring extra page views to get to the user's destination where there previously was no need for either. - Charles Stover (talk) 00:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- I question the validity of the address-bar argument, because I'm not sure that it's a common way of interacting with the wiki. However, after toying with the search interface, I'll concede you've got a fair point there, and I'll keep it in mind in the future. I've gone ahead and restored the page. Thank you for taking the time to argue your point and correct me on this. --Corveroth (talk) 01:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's probably not commonly harnessed, but I use Chrome's search engine functionality (chrome://settings/search) to access this website. I just type mtg, space, and whatever the article name is to reach an article. In this case, typing "mtg Fastlands" in my address bar, I am taken to Fast_land. For other Wiki websites, I'm sure others also just type the URL directly by guessing it instead of visiting the homepage and searching; but I may just be projecting. If I wanted to view a movie on Wikipedia, for example, I'd start with the Wikipedia domain, find an auto-complete of a previous article I've read, delete the page name and type Movie_Name. This is way faster than visiting Wiki's homepage and searching Movie Name; and I'd assume others do the same (e.g. for this Wiki as well). I may be alone in doing this, though. Thanks for adding it back. - Charles Stover (talk) 02:32, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- I question the validity of the address-bar argument, because I'm not sure that it's a common way of interacting with the wiki. However, after toying with the search interface, I'll concede you've got a fair point there, and I'll keep it in mind in the future. I've gone ahead and restored the page. Thank you for taking the time to argue your point and correct me on this. --Corveroth (talk) 01:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- Except it should exist for people who type "fastlands" into the search bar [at the top right of every page] or their address bar, as I often do. Instead of bringing to the page they clearly want to access, it displays the 404 page. There is no reason to require users to view this 404 page, when it's clear what page they want to access. No one is being asked to do the work of making redirects. I am doing it voluntarily. Deleting the redirects accomplishes nothing other than making the content harder to find and requiring extra page views to get to the user's destination where there previously was no need for either. - Charles Stover (talk) 00:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)