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02:28, Thursday, December 5, 2024 (UTC)

In-game references

Sorry if this isn't the correct section to write this. Looking through the pages, it seems to be that the section "in-game references" are not always constant. Usually we have a "represented", with cards that represent precisely the character (with name, appearance and gameplay); then we have a "depicted", with cards which that character is presented visually; then we have an "associated", with cards that share the name of that character, or are strongly implied to be theirs even if the character's name doesn't appear (like Pyromancer's google for Chandra and Jaya), and last we have a "quoted or referred to" with cards in which the character appears in the flavor text. Sometimes, however, I see that the card are repeated: for example, if a character is both depicted and quoted, the card appears in both sections. To me it seems a bit redundant: wouldn't be better if a card appeared only once on the page, in order of importance? Represented, depicted, associated and quoted (associated could even be put to the second place, since the common Magic player recognize the name of a card, but not necessarily the character depicted). I would like to hear your reasoning on the matter, in order to come up with the best "template" to follow, in order to apply it to every page. --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 13:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I usually do "represented in", "associated cards", "depicted in" and "quoted or refereed to" in that order, and I do not duplicate entries between them. Because all card that represent that character also depict him and also often quote him. Same goes with association. So my take is to put a card in the highest category for that character. At least that is my approach to it. - Yandere Sliver 15:37, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

That is my preferred method / order as well --Hunter (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Mechanic pages

All of the keyword mechanics in the game have a link on the bottom to a Gatherer search that lists off all the cards with that mechanic. May I request that we change this to link to Scryfall instead? Given that the rest of the Wiki is on Scryfall, it seems like this ought to do the same. As it stands now, it sticks out like a sore thumb. --GoldenSandslash15 (talk) 21:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

I mean I would be all for it because Gatherer likes to break on me for some reason. We would really need to check if Scryfall still finds all the search phrases since it handles reminder text differently from Gatherer. - Yandere Sliver 22:18, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

You can find reminder text if you want to. The search "o:flying" would ignore reminder text, but the search "fo:flying" includes it. --GoldenSandslash15 (talk) 00:26, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I manly ask because the search function must be able to earch for the reminder text because that is often the only thing which allows you to find a certain keyword accurately. Case in point: Champion.

Again, I would have no issues with that. I would want to hear other voices however. - Yandere Sliver 01:20, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Fixed and updated gatherer search template

It should be noted upfront that Template:Gatherer_search is currently only used on one page, so there's a decent chance that ditching the template completely makes more sense than working on it.

The instructions on the template say you should be able to create an "and" condition by repeating a parameter multiple times with different arguments, but that doesn't work (e.g. {{Gatherer search|color|R|color|G}} is supposed to find cards that are both red and green, but it does not). I created a new version of the template at Template:Gatherer_search2 that correctly implements this, and I also added an optional display parameter so that the template can be used for in-line links to cards if anyone feels so inclined. I threw together some sample cases on my user talk page.

Template:Gatherer_search should be replaced with the modified version I put at Template:Gatherer_search2, but even that one still has some outstanding issues I didn't fix. Number-related conditions like cmc or power don't work because they have different formatting than most other conditions, and there is no way to do NOT conditions or OR conditions. If there is any interest, it might be possible to make those work with a secondary nested template that can do some smarter formatting.

As a side note, a lot of the uses of this template on that statistics and trivia page are incorrectly entered. I might fix that tomorrow.

--Chris314542 (talk) 22:14, 29 April 2019 (UTC)