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: The list is about the current subtypes. But you could make a note that Teferi will be added later --[[User:LegacymtgsalvationUser620|Hunter]] ([[User talk:LegacymtgsalvationUser620|talk]]) 04:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
: The list is about the current subtypes. But you could make a note that Teferi will be added later --[[User:LegacymtgsalvationUser620|Hunter]] ([[User talk:LegacymtgsalvationUser620|talk]]) 04:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
===Visited planes===
What do the admins think of including the information found in this thread on the planeswalker pages?
http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6841&sid=0b69c4034b84648b38dd4ffa7845fe72&p=365975#p365975
--[[User:MattoFrank|MattoFrank]] ([[User talk:MattoFrank|talk]]) 21:04, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
: You never need an admin's permission to edit the wiki (okay, outside of protected pages, but those are rare). If you think it will improve the article, it's standard and encouraged wiki practice to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold be bold]! Just do it! Having said that, my opinion as just another editor is that this wiki is overloaded with list content already ("referenced on", "locations on <plane>", "strictly better", etc). I personally don't feel that adding a travelogue to each planeswalker's page adds much value to those pages, and I definitely don't think that the list itself is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability noteworthy], because it lacks detail about those visits and as linked, lacks sources. However, I do think there are ways we can use that information. You might add a field to the [[Template:Character|character template]] listing the character's last known location. You could use that list to help verify that the sections detailing a character's history are complete, or to write such a section from scratch it needed. There are definitely ways to use it, but that particular page is essentially uncitable. --[[User:Corveroth|Corveroth]] ([[User talk:Corveroth|talk]]) 00:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
:: I'd find it useful, as I like building hypothetical decks for Planeswalkers with cards representing previous visits to a list of planes. So I guessed others might find it useful as well :D I intended to add it to that template, yeah, so I'll figure out how it'll look best. The reason I asked first is that I used to work on the Borderlands wiki and some people lost their shit when I first started changing things, even though they later admitted that my changes were for the better. This made me cautious, so ... --[[User:MattoFrank|MattoFrank]] ([[User talk:MattoFrank|talk]]) 03:36, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
::: I would ask, first: is this information that someone might want at a glance? Is it brief? Is it a key characteristic of the article subject? My opinion is that the content we're talking about is best suited to coverage in the article body itself, perhaps as lead sentences or subheadings within their biography. Still, you do you. I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I can't imagine you'll hit backlash as long as you do your work consistently and well. --[[User:Corveroth|Corveroth]] ([[User talk:Corveroth|talk]]) 04:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
: Well, it doesn't hurt to consult others when you are planning systematic changes. I agree that the [[Template:Character|character template]] would be a logical place to place such a listing. I have no objections. --[[User:Hunterofsalvation|Hunter]] ([[User talk:Hunterofsalvation|talk]]) 05:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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Should "Teferi" be listed here as a planeswalker type even though it isn't in the current Comprehensive Rules? --Craftykids (talk)

The list is about the current subtypes. But you could make a note that Teferi will be added later --Hunter (talk) 04:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Visited planes

What do the admins think of including the information found in this thread on the planeswalker pages? http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6841&sid=0b69c4034b84648b38dd4ffa7845fe72&p=365975#p365975 --MattoFrank (talk) 21:04, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

You never need an admin's permission to edit the wiki (okay, outside of protected pages, but those are rare). If you think it will improve the article, it's standard and encouraged wiki practice to be bold! Just do it! Having said that, my opinion as just another editor is that this wiki is overloaded with list content already ("referenced on", "locations on <plane>", "strictly better", etc). I personally don't feel that adding a travelogue to each planeswalker's page adds much value to those pages, and I definitely don't think that the list itself is noteworthy, because it lacks detail about those visits and as linked, lacks sources. However, I do think there are ways we can use that information. You might add a field to the character template listing the character's last known location. You could use that list to help verify that the sections detailing a character's history are complete, or to write such a section from scratch it needed. There are definitely ways to use it, but that particular page is essentially uncitable. --Corveroth (talk) 00:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I'd find it useful, as I like building hypothetical decks for Planeswalkers with cards representing previous visits to a list of planes. So I guessed others might find it useful as well :D I intended to add it to that template, yeah, so I'll figure out how it'll look best. The reason I asked first is that I used to work on the Borderlands wiki and some people lost their shit when I first started changing things, even though they later admitted that my changes were for the better. This made me cautious, so ... --MattoFrank (talk) 03:36, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I would ask, first: is this information that someone might want at a glance? Is it brief? Is it a key characteristic of the article subject? My opinion is that the content we're talking about is best suited to coverage in the article body itself, perhaps as lead sentences or subheadings within their biography. Still, you do you. I don't really have a dog in this fight, and I can't imagine you'll hit backlash as long as you do your work consistently and well. --Corveroth (talk) 04:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't hurt to consult others when you are planning systematic changes. I agree that the character template would be a logical place to place such a listing. I have no objections. --Hunter (talk) 05:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)