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:I would agree with this assessment. What to add the references? I m currently on mobile and that makes editing a bit hard. {{unsigned|Yanderesliver}}  - 22:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
:I would agree with this assessment. What to add the references? I m currently on mobile and that makes editing a bit hard. {{unsigned|Yanderesliver}}  - 22:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
:: Done --[[User:Hunterofsalvation|Hunter]] ([[User talk:Hunterofsalvation|talk]]) 04:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
:: Done --[[User:Hunterofsalvation|Hunter]] ([[User talk:Hunterofsalvation|talk]]) 04:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
== Maid Marian? ==
The one depicted in Outlaws' Merriment is NOT Maid Marian, it's a gender-reversed Will Scarlet, which is the third best-known member of the Merry Men (which Maid Marian isn't) after Little John and Friar Tuck. How would Marian be a Rogue that deals damage in an ambush? --[[User:Kumagoro42|Kumagoro42]] ([[User talk:Kumagoro42|talk]]) 15:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
: Fair point. I would agree with your assessment. - [[User:Yanderesliver|Yandere Sliver]] [[File:H09 symbol.png|16px|link=User talk:Yanderesliver]] 17:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
== The Hunchback of Notre-Dame ==
Definitely not a fairy tale, it's a Gothic novel by Victor Hugo. Not everything Disney made a movie of is a fairy tale (in fact, very little is). --[[User:Kumagoro42|Kumagoro42]] ([[User talk:Kumagoro42|talk]]) 15:36, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
: Also good point. Moving it to "other influences" makes a lot of sense. - [[User:Yanderesliver|Yandere Sliver]] [[File:H09 symbol.png|16px|link=User talk:Yanderesliver]] 17:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
== Chulane as Cú Chulainn ==
I'm not very familiar with Cú Chulainn, but from a cursory read of the linked Wikipedia page, he doesn't seem to have anything in common with Chulane. Cú Chulainn is a fierce warrior "known for his terrifying battle frenzy (...) in which he becomes an unrecognisable monster who knows neither friend nor foe". Chulane is a druid, and seems like a tame, nerdish character, he's a "Teller of Tales", he's portrayed with a book, without any martial stance whatsoever. Also, Cú Chulainn is more commonly portrayed as dark-haired and fights from a chariot. I don't know why they made the name so similar, but it might be completely by chance. --[[User:Kumagoro42|Kumagoro42]] ([[User talk:Kumagoro42|talk]]) 12:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
== Loch Dragon question ==
Anyone know why someone would think that Loch Dragon is specifically a referenced to Falkor from The Neverending Story?
It doesn't look anything like him.{{unsigned|Primus 81}}
: I actually agree. Just given the name I think of the [[wikipedia:Loch Ness Monster|Loch Ness Monster]] - [[User:Yanderesliver|Yandere Sliver]] [[File:H09 symbol.png|16px|link=User talk:Yanderesliver]] 16:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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Cauldron of Eternity

Are we sure it is supposed to represent the Holy Grail? I'm pretty sure is inspired by the Pair Dadeni, the celtic cauldron of rebirth. It has even the power to bring back the dead (which I don't remember was associated with the Holy Grail). --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 07:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

It is missing in the story, and everybody is questing for it. Thus it seems to be inspired by the holy grail. Besides, a set inspired by Arthurian legend without the holy grail would seem to be odd. But it can have both influences. --Hunter (talk) 07:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Other references

Oko is supposedly Puck (or a mix of Puck and Oberon) from A Midsummer Night's Dream. Garruk is the Huntsman from Snow White. The Royal Scions are various prince and princess tropes, there might be something more specific where the heir(s) to the throne is/are trying to find their missing father. --79.20.123.150 21:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

"Comic adaption"?

Dance of the Manse is said to be the dancing furniture from Beauty and the Beast "comic adaption only". What does that mean? I'm sure "adaption" should have been "adaptation", but "comic" in what sense? Comic book? Comedic in tone? Why don't explicitly say "from the 1991 Disney musical version"? We're collecting references, not protecting their intellectual honesty. --79.20.123.150 21:33, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Castle Garenbrig

Am I imagining things or this "castle" looks like Pride Rock form the Lion King Disney movie? --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 10:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Uh, I can see Vantress/Dalaran, but Embervale/Irontown seems a bit of stretch... and pretty syre Lochtwain isn't a Star Destroyer, looks more an Aladdin genie's lamp to me --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

All that glitters

I think this card is clearly a reference to the Shakespeare line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_glitters_is_not_gold Also appears re arranged in Lord of the rings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_is_gold_does_not_glitter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Happypb (talkcontribs).

I would agree with this assessment. What to add the references? I m currently on mobile and that makes editing a bit hard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yanderesliver (talkcontribs). - 22:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Done --Hunter (talk) 04:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Maid Marian?

The one depicted in Outlaws' Merriment is NOT Maid Marian, it's a gender-reversed Will Scarlet, which is the third best-known member of the Merry Men (which Maid Marian isn't) after Little John and Friar Tuck. How would Marian be a Rogue that deals damage in an ambush? --Kumagoro42 (talk) 15:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Fair point. I would agree with your assessment. - Yandere Sliver 17:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

The Hunchback of Notre-Dame

Definitely not a fairy tale, it's a Gothic novel by Victor Hugo. Not everything Disney made a movie of is a fairy tale (in fact, very little is). --Kumagoro42 (talk) 15:36, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Also good point. Moving it to "other influences" makes a lot of sense. - Yandere Sliver 17:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Chulane as Cú Chulainn

I'm not very familiar with Cú Chulainn, but from a cursory read of the linked Wikipedia page, he doesn't seem to have anything in common with Chulane. Cú Chulainn is a fierce warrior "known for his terrifying battle frenzy (...) in which he becomes an unrecognisable monster who knows neither friend nor foe". Chulane is a druid, and seems like a tame, nerdish character, he's a "Teller of Tales", he's portrayed with a book, without any martial stance whatsoever. Also, Cú Chulainn is more commonly portrayed as dark-haired and fights from a chariot. I don't know why they made the name so similar, but it might be completely by chance. --Kumagoro42 (talk) 12:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Loch Dragon question

Anyone know why someone would think that Loch Dragon is specifically a referenced to Falkor from The Neverending Story? It doesn't look anything like him.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Primus 81 (talkcontribs).

I actually agree. Just given the name I think of the Loch Ness Monster - Yandere Sliver 16:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)